What's new
Discussion Hub
By:
Filters

Welcome to the DiscussionHub 👋, Guest

Become part of our community! Register or log in to connect with other members, share your thoughts, and explore the forum. It's free and easy to join.

Log in Register now
  • We have now changed the post count rule to post your website in the Website Directory and the Member Showcase to 10, this was previously 50 but we felt it was too high. You can read more about this change here >>> https://discussionhub.net/threads/update-of-rules-for-the-member-showcase.4356/

Movie Database The Fantastic Four: First Steps

Shortie⁷
  • 0
  • 0
  • 0
Title: The Fantastic Four: First Steps

Tagline: Prepare 4 launch.

Genre: Science Fiction,Adventure

Director: Matt Shakman

Cast: Pedro Pascal,Vanessa Kirby,Joseph Quinn,Ebon Moss-Bachrach,Ralph Ineson,Julia Garner,Paul Walter Hauser,John Malkovich,Natasha Lyonne,Sarah Niles

Status: Post Production

Release: 2025-07-23

Plot: Against the vibrant backdrop of a 1960s-inspired, retro-futuristic world, Marvel's First Family is forced to balance their roles as heroes with the strength of their family bond, while defending Earth from a ravenous space god called Galactus and his enigmatic Herald, Silver Surfer.

Trailer Cast Crew Videos

    • Pedro Pascal

      Reed Richards / Mr. Fantastic

    • Vanessa Kirby

      Sue Storm / The Invisible Woman

    • Joseph Quinn

      Johnny Storm / Human Torch

    • Ebon Moss-Bachrach

      Ben Grimm / The Thing

    • Ralph Ineson

      Galactus

    • Julia Garner

      Shalla-Bal / Silver Surfer

    • Paul Walter Hauser

    • John Malkovich

    • Natasha Lyonne

    • Sarah Niles

    • Louis D'Esposito

      Production
      Executive Producer

    • Matt Shakman

      Directing
      Director

    • Alexandra Byrne

      Costume & Make-Up
      Costume Design

    • Eric Pearson

      Writing
      Writer

    • Josh Friedman

      Writing
      Screenplay

    • Kasra Farahani

      Art
      Production Design

    • George Hull

      Art
      Concept Artist

    • Jess Hall

      Camera
      Director of Photography

    • Ian Springer

      Writing
      Writer

    • Jeff Kaplan

      Writing
      Writer

    • Benjamin Last

      Art
      Concept Artist

    • Jeremy Simser

      Art
      Storyboard Artist

    • Jason Sweers

      Art
      Graphic Designer

    • Dan West

      Art
      Storyboard Artist

    • Barrie Gower

      Costume & Make-Up
      Prosthetic Designer

    • Michael Giacchino

      Sound
      Original Music Composer

    • Jille Azis

      Art
      Set Decoration

    • John Casali

      Sound
      Production Sound Mixer

    • Alistair Williams

      Visual Effects
      Special Effects Supervisor

    • Chad Buehler

      Visual Effects
      Digital Compositor

    • Kevin Feige

      Production
      Producer

    • Sarah Halley Finn

      Production
      Casting

    • Stan Lee

      Writing
      Characters

    • Jack Kirby

      Writing
      Characters

    • Elizabeth Yianni-Georgiou

      Costume & Make-Up
      Makeup Designer

    • Jan Philip Cramer

      Visual Effects
      Visual Effects Supervisor

    • Aidan Brindle

      Crew
      Stunts

    • Rowley Irlam

      Crew
      Stunt Coordinator

    • Natasha Mullan

      Camera
      "B" Camera Operator

    • David Pearce

      Camera
      First Assistant "B" Camera
    More…

    • PREPARE 4️⃣ LAUNCH

      • Featurette

    • Official Teaser Out Now

      • Teaser

    • Official Teaser

      • Teaser
Click to expand...
Movie information in first post provided by The Movie Database
variety.com

Joseph Quinn Spoke to Marvel About Johnny Storm and ‘Where We Are Culturally’: He Was ‘This Womanizing Guy, but Is That Sexy These Days? I Don’t Think So’

Joseph Quinn spoke to Marvel about Johnny Storm and where we are culturally before "Fantastic Four: The First Steps."
variety.com variety.com

This is so frustrating. I can't believe this. I just read the Variety piece where Joseph Quinn discusses how his take on Johnny Storm will differ from past iterations. He mentions conversations with Kevin Feige about how the “womanizing, devil-may-care” version of Johnny isn’t “sexy these days,” and how this new version will be “less callous with other people’s feelings” and more self-aware.

As a longtime Marvel fan—especially of Spider-Man—I can’t help but feel a sense of déjà vu here. I remember feeling this exact same disappointment when the MCU’s Peter Parker was introduced. Gone was the angsty, socially awkward loner with a chip on his shoulder—the Peter that felt like an outcast, who earned his heroism through pain, loss, and moral growth. Instead, we got a more sanitized, upbeat, and “relatable” Peter, heavily integrated into the broader MCU, and always surrounded by mentors, tech, and safety nets.

It’s not that emotional complexity is bad—far from it. But when that complexity is prepackaged into easily digestible “self-awareness” and soft introspection, it often feels like we’re losing the sharp edges that make these characters real. The MCU Peter rarely wrestled with moral ambiguity or isolation the way the comics Peter did. His independence, his inner conflict, his bite—all of that was softened in service of broader appeal.

Now, reading about Johnny Storm being reframed this way—less bold, less cocky, more “in touch” and “less offensive”—I’m getting worried we’re about to lose another icon to the same process. Johnny Storm was never just about bravado for bravado’s sake. He was flawed, yes. Loud, impulsive, and arrogant. But that’s what made his growth matter. He was fiery—in personality as much as in power—and the point was watching that heat refine him, not preemptively extinguish it.

I get that we evolve culturally. I get that some traits need reevaluating. But not everything that’s loud, brash, or traditionally masculine needs to be framed as a “problem to fix.” Characters like Johnny Storm and Peter Parker earned their redemption through friction, struggle, and learning. If we remove that tension from the start—if we round off every edge before the story even begins—what are we really left with?

I hope I’m wrong. I hope this Johnny still gets to be bold, funny, and genuinely flawed. But I’ve seen what happens when iconic personalities get flattened to fit the brand. As someone who’s already watched it happen to Spider-Man, I’d rather not see it happen again, especially when it comes to Spider-Man's longtime trusted ally in the comics, the Torch himself.

Would love to hear others’ thoughts—especially if you’re also coming from the Spidey side of the fandom.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Daily Poll: If you could teleport anywhere right now, where would you go?

  • A bustling city abroad

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • A tropical beach

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • A cozy mountain cabin

    Votes: 3 50.0%

  • My bed

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • Other (reply with you answer)

    Votes: 1 16.7%
See comments…
  • XenForo 2 Style [XGT] Yazılım ve web hizmetleri 2014-2024
    Community platform by XenForo® © 2010-2025 XenForo Ltd.

    • Theme customization system

    You can customize some areas of the forum theme from this menu

    System sensitive
    Light mode
    Dark mode
    Choose the color that reflects your taste

    Wide/Narrow view

    You can control a structure that you can use to use your theme wide or narrow.

    Grid view forum list

    You can control the layout of the forum list in a grid or ordinary listing style structure.

    Picture grid mode

    In the grid forum list, you can control the structure where you can open/close images.

    Close sidebar

    You can get rid of the crowded view in the forum by closing the sidebar.

    Fixed sidebar

    You can make it more useful and easier to access by pinning the sidebar.

    Corner radius close

    You can use the radius at the corners of the blocks according to your taste by closing/opening it.

    Back